My one month old son Noah is small. He’s still around his birth weight and still has the look of a newborn baby.

Despite his small size, it’s amazing to watch how alert he is and how he interacts with his big sisters, his mom, and myself. We are all excited to see what kind of man he grows up to be.

That is one reason why I was horrified yesterday to see photos of murdered babies from the Kermit Gosnell trial, they looked like Noah.

Dr. Gosnell has run an abortion clinic in Philadelphia for thirty years, and is on trial for murdering seven babies born alive and one would be mother.

The testimony and photos coming from the trial are absolutely heartbreaking: babies spinal cords severed with scissors as they struggled for life, the feet of aborted children being kept in jars as mementos, filthy operating facilities, and a doctor boasting about killing babies “big enough to walk me home.”

This should be front page news. It is every bit as horrifying as the Newtown shootings, and they kept our attention for months.

It may be the biggest abortion related trial since Roe v. Wade thirty years ago. Yet there is deafening silence about it in the “mainstream” news media.

As one of the few reporters who was at the trial remarked “if you are pro-choice, do you really want people to hear about this?“

I do. Go online and search for Kermit Gosnell. Then explain to me why this is not newsworthy.

(107) comments

Bps
Bps

Good luck getting any abortion supporters to weigh in on this one.
On 4/4/2013 8:55 AM I posted to this forum the following:

"Isn't it amazing that Media has totally ignored the ongoing trial of Dr. Kermit Gosnell ??? Owner of two multi-million dollar abortion mills in Philly Trial shows errr ... his work (???) like ... cutting the spines of multiple babies after they were delivered because of botched abortions ... abortions of 30 weeks and longer babies and much more ..."

And not one responce

Rosanna
Rosanna

The reason is that the evidence is showing the babies as human beings. That and the impossibility of showing what was being done was saving women from domineering males imposing their Christian values on helpless women victims.

With the babies looking like victims, it doesn't advance their agenda so they feel comfortable just ignoring it.

vanjon
vanjon

The major media and the president went viral over the terrible tragedy in Newtown as they should have but now their true colors are showing as they ignore the senseless slaughter of thousands of babies and even those born alive. How sick and despicable are these people who approve of murdering live babies. By their omission of coverage of the trial they are giving their approval of the gruesome murders of children. It is not any wonder our nation has so many problems when the morality of the president and most of the news reporters and commentators are this low. Gosnell has killed more children per month for the last 20 years than were killed in Newtown and the news media ignores it.

diogenes
diogenes

More Kermit Gosnells are what you will get when abortions are outlawed. Kermit Gosnells are what you get when competent doctors refuse to do abortions, and medical schools don’t teach abortions techniques due to the vociferous and outlandish tactics of the “right to life” movement. The return of “back alley” abortions will become commonplace. See http://www.thenation.com/article/158089/dr-kermit-gosnells-horror-show# and http://www.religiondispatches.org/dispatches/sarahposner/7027/yes__let_s_talk_about_kermit_gosnell/ Kermit Gosnells don’t happen in other western civilized countries with universal national health care and reproductive rights.

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

Abortion supporters always cry out for more regulation, until it's proposed and then Planned Parenthood steps up and lobbies against it every single time.
Reproductive rights don't trump the rights of a human being in my book. Sorry.

diogenes
diogenes

Nonsense, what they oppose is very restrictive regulation that would effectively shut down every abortion clinic in the country. But that is what we really want isn’t it pastor, in order to maintain a steady supply of “sinners” that you can kick for not believing your “morality” cherry picked from a book of fairy tales. It’s not enough to threaten us with hell in the afterlife, but you must also make our life a hell.

Hary P
Hary P

Whether you like it or not, abortion is legal in this country. The use of emotionally charged words like "baby killers" will not make any difference in the end. Most of the reactionary laws being passed by the GOP controlled states making abortions hard to get have little chance of not being struck down by the courts, just as their voter suppression laws were.

BTW, what regulations are abortion supporters crying out for?

Rosanna
Rosanna

How many "civilized" countries allow for the murder of a baby born alive in the name of "reproductive rights"?

diogenes
diogenes

None. And who justified such a measure? No one. Did you read the articles?

Rosanna
Rosanna

"And who justified such a measure?"

It is a practice that has been allowed to go on unchecked for over 15 years in a US city that had a turnout of 85% for Obama in 2012, you tell me who justified it, you are the one that is worried about reproductive rights.

Rosanna
Rosanna

"Good luck getting any abortion supporters to weigh in on this one."

Maybe this trial has made them think about abortion in terms other than just their standard talking points and mantras.

Hary P
Hary P

When poor women get one it's called an abortion. When well to do Republican wives (like Rick Santorum's wife) get one it's called a medical procedure. And yet, even though Santorum's wife had an abortion to save her life, husband Rick still opposes abortions for any reason. Typical GOP hypocrisy.

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

You just tried to deflect moral outrage over CUTTING INFANTS SPINES WITH SCISSORS with unfounded accusations of racism and class warfare all the while making light of the plight of a family who lost their child (and fought to keep it).
Congrats.
BTW even liberal magazines have said the Santorums didn't have an abortion. So you basically just became the democratic equivalent of a birther.

Hary P
Hary P

Wasn't attempting to deflect anything. I was merely pointing out the hypocritical position of a shape shifting politician like Santorum. Our politicians stick their thumb in the air when deciding where they stand. Mitt Romney was a good example of that. Abortions have always been around. If the Republicans get their way, poor women will be forced into back alley clinics while rich women like Karen Santorum will have "medical procedures" and out of country abortions available to them.

Rosanna
Rosanna

So to avoid the appearance of hypocrisy, the man should have let his wife die?

Abortions are legal in Philadelphia, how did that prevent Gosnell from running a clinic that makes "back alley clinics" look respectable?

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

You changed the subject. What do you think deflect means?

Hary P
Hary P

pastorhayden- You changed the subject. What do you think deflect means?

I'm well aware of what deflect means. For that to be the case, it would have to have been my intention to change the subject, it wasn't. I was merely adding my opinion. Since the topic is abortion, my comments on the Santorum abortion are completely relevant. Apparently you lack the ability to see the connection, but don't feel bad you're not the only one on here that has that problem..

heavyweight
heavyweight

pastorhayden, it's S.O.P. it's the crux of most of their arguments.

Hary P
Hary P

Behold the Spawn of Satan! The Bowels of Perdition. Hear what I say! I speak Salvation! I speak Redemption!
-Reverend Bubba Flavel/ noted expert on ethics

Hary P
Hary P

Looks like you did a little reading. Did you come across any of the articles about Karen Santorum's 6 year live in relationship with an abortion doctor by the name of Tom Allen? One web site even had lovey dovey pics of Karen and her abortion doctor lover. It seems that Karen hasn't always been the pious little pro life Catholic wife she portrays on the campaign trail. And you lost me with your racism charge. What was that all about?

Rosanna
Rosanna

“The Santorums’ child was not going to live regardless, yet Karen Santorum risked her life to take the pregnancy as far as possible. Both she and her husband committed to an early delivery with hope that a miracle would occur and their child would survive,” “Karen Santorum wasn’t going to live to carry the baby to term and the baby, due to a defect, didn’t have much of a chance outside the womb, but there was a chance. It does happen.”

http://www.lifenews.com/2012/01/06/liberal-web-site-lies-claims-santorums-wife-had-abortion/

Hary P
Hary P

Could you have possibly found a less objective web site to make your point? Why didn't you just quote from Santorum's bio? I can find web sites that say that what she had was technically a second semester abortion. You can believe yours and I'll believe mine.

Rosanna
Rosanna

" Karen, in her 19th week of pregnancy, received a risky surgery to save a pregnancy that doctors thought had little chance of survival. After the surgery, she came down with an infection, and doctors told Rick that unless the source of the infection — the fetus — was removed, his wife would die and his already-born children would be motherless. The doctor also told Santorum that his wife's fetus would not survive outside of the womb. According to Santorum, Karen went into labor as a result of the antibiotics, and then doctors gave her a drug that further induced labor. She delivered, and unfortunately the doctors were right."


http://jezebel.com/5873158/rick-santorums-anti+abortion-stance-would-have-killed-his-own-wife

Is that objective enough for you or would you prefer something from Porky's II?

Hary P
Hary P


Rosie- that objective enough for you or would you prefer something from Porky's II?

Actually, I would prefer that Porky's character over some of the hypocritical blather you usually put out.

Hary P
Hary P

If Karen had continued her live in relation with abortion doctor, none of this would have been necessary.

gringa
gringa

Like frivilous gun law arguments, the reasons we have so much baby killing (abortion) goes far beyond what Americans are willing to consider.

The solution to all violence in our nation has nothing to do with man-made laws. It has only to do with God's laws. Pure and simple.

Rosanna
Rosanna

Many claim that abortion should be legal so they may be done in clean, government inspected facilities. Gosnell's clinic was last inspected in 1993, 20 years ago. And prior to his discovery, NOT ONE abortion clinic out of 22 of them in Philadelphia had been inspected in the preceding 15 years.

Gosnell was only discovered after the DEA served a search warrant on the clinic looking for evidence of illegal drug prescriptions.

Hary P
Hary P

Where's Professor McBible. This thread is the perfect chance for him to bloviate his opinions. Oh well, I guess he's used up all his free ones. lol!

Bps
Bps

Hummm...

Still hasn't addressed the horror of what happened

or why the MSM & Dimmy-whacks are not reporting the trial....

Rosanna
Rosanna

"Still hasn't addressed the horror of what happened"

But he has defended it by trying to change the subject, demonizing people not even remotely related to the atrocity and by citing B-rated movies as a source of expert advice on ethics.

Bps
Bps

Ever read Saul Alinsky's Rules for Radicals Rose???

…. it catalogs the pattern we've seen out of anointed one & leftist dimmy-whacks for years

Attack never defend ... instead deflect

… if that doesn't work

Defame opponent & their sources

… if that doesn't work

Ridicule … man’s most potent weapon

… AND

As last resort Ignore the opponent

Sound Familiar?

Hary P
Hary P

Rosanna -So to avoid the appearance of hypocrisy, the man should have let his wife die?

Of course not, but he shouldn't want to deny others the same treatment his wife got. Santorum is so radical he would even deny a 12 year old rape victim the choice of having an abortion. I suppose you agree with that too, huh?

Rosanna
Rosanna

How are the religious beliefs of the Santorums more radical than the serial murders of babies by a deranged abortionist AFTER they are born?

Hary P
Hary P

So you're back to answering questions by asking questions of your own. I'll try again: Do you agree with Santorum that a 12 year old child rape victim be required to give birth.

Rosanna
Rosanna

"Do you agree with Santorum that a 12 year old child rape victim be required to give birth."

If it does not endanger the life of the mother, YES I do.


Why, because I believe that God is the creator of all human life and that I am not the one to judge who's life is worth living and who's is not.

You've made your point Hary, both Santorum and myself must be worse than Kermit Gosnell. Why else would you be defending him so hard.

heavyweight
heavyweight

"I'll try again:"

now THAT'S rich!!

Hary P
Hary P

heavyweight - 2 hours ago"I'll try again:"

now THAT'S rich!!

Hey, I answer questions. I'm just selective on who's question I chose to answer. As I've always said, I don't answer dumb questions.

Hary P
Hary P

Rosie said- You've made your point Hary, both Santorum and myself must be worse than Kermit Gosnell. Why else would you be defending him so hard.

Please show where I defended him, and be specific please. Not jumping on his case does not mean an endorsement on my part. You're starting to sound like jr.

heavyweight
heavyweight

"and be specific please"

roflmao!!

Time Lord
Time Lord

Hary, to be Pro-Choice is one thing, but defending the practice of murdering babies that are already born and doing it by jabbing a pair of scissors into the back of their neck and severing their spinal cord, and then cutting off their feet and keeping them in a jar as a souvenir, that's just sick.

Hary P
Hary P

When did I defend that? I've never really expressed my views on abortion. Just as calling out the so called religious hypocrites doesn't show my beliefs, pointing out the hypocrisy of others on this subject does not address my position. You assume too much.

Bps
Bps

Deflecting horror of Gosnell’s brutal acts by using Santorums sad situation

Hum…

2008 campaign- Oman “swore” would have supported fed Born-Alive Protection Act …. if he’d been in fed. senate

2001, 2002, 2003 State Senator Obama opposed ILL's Born-Alive Protection Act

FACT- Obama presided over mtg of Committee … AND ... led all committee's Democrats to vote againest the bill ... thus killing it

Evidence shows like Gosnell he opposed the moral treatment of those little ones “born alive”

Hary P
Hary P

Funny how those who yell the loudest from the top of the moral high ground are the most likely to be immoral, unethical people in the light of day.
-an astute Internet blogger

I would list the ethically challenged TV preachers to support the above comment, but there is a 500 character limit.

Hary P
Hary P

Why, because I believe that God is the creator of all human life and that I am not the one to judge who's life is worth living and who's is not.

This is what I had in mind when i posted the above comment..

Hary P
Hary P

Rosanna -"Do you agree with Santorum that a 12 year old child rape victim be required to give birth."

If it does not endanger the life of the mother, YES I do.

That would make your position even more extreme than Santorum's. He doesn't even believe in abortion to save a mothers life. That is unless the mother is his wife of course.

Hary P
Hary P

It hard for me to believe a parent of a 12 year old child would want their daughter to give birth if she had became pregnant as the result of being raped. What kind of a parent do that?

Rosanna
Rosanna

Was that a question or are you still just grousing?

It seems that you are quite willing to sentence a grandchild to a death sentence for the crime of showing up at a time that was inconvenient for you. What kind of punishment do you think the rapist should get.

Let me guess, you don't believe in the death penalty for rape, do you?

Hary P
Hary P

Was that a question or are you still just grousing?

Just expressing my dismay that a parent would sentence their own child to a life sentence of guilt by having to go through child birth from being raped. Actually, I think you just took that position to disagree with me. You probably do feel that way for other's children, but I suspect you would pull a Santorum if it happened closer to home.

And no, I would prefer to see rapists locked up in a cage like an animal for the rest of their life.

Rosanna
Rosanna

How nice of you Hary, you would only give half of the victims of the rape the death sentence. And would you recommend that your daughter go to Kermit Gosnell's abortion clinic? Or do you not like cats?

Bps
Bps

Why is mass media ignoring the trial of abortion-murderer in Philly?

Is it because…

… happened in inner-city ghetto & victims were poor, minority women

… publicizing it could wake people up & draw attention to brutality of the act upon the unborn

Hum…

OR

Could it be the leftists media don’t want to face the multiple instances of directly & indirectly murdering infants who survived abortion process?

Something they & Oman insists is statistical impossibility?

Hary P
Hary P

Rosie said- But he has defended it by trying to change the subject, demonizing people not even remotely related to the atrocity and by citing B-rated movies as a source of expert advice on ethics.

I see you're still using that back woods Shelby country logic. Can you deny that Bubba Flavel is a prertty good representation of many of today's preachers? I don't have to make a list, you know who they are.

Time Lord
Time Lord

"Just as calling out the so called religious hypocrites doesn't show my beliefs, pointing out the hypocrisy of others on this subject does not address my position."

Hary, you have come in on this discussion and taken on any and all posters who were appalled by the actions of a man accused of gruesome murders of babies. Either you are defending postpartum abortions or you are just expressing your vitriolic hatred of people who have religious beliefs that are different from yours.


Which is it?

Hary P
Hary P

Neither. I just relish calling out hypocrites. I've noticed that the biggest hypocrites on here are those that claim to be faithful to the teachings of Jesus. If you weren't wearing blinders, you too might be able to spot them. But I do understand your situation and believe me you have my deepest sympathy.

Hary P
Hary P

Ta Da!........ Once again Snidely Whiplash comes to the rescue of his poor misguided damsel. And to think she wasn't even tied to the railroad tracks, only called out for her on going hypocrisy.

Hary P
Hary P

Both you and Rosie seem to be fixated on me, TL. 9 out of your last 10 posts have been directed to me. I didn't check Rosie's profile, but she usually has similar numbers. Do I dominate your dinner table conversation too? I can't recall having any two posers oops... I mean posters with such an obsession with my every word like you two. Really, I'm flattered.

Hary P
Hary P

Hey TL, I went ahead and checked Rosie's profile. 9 of her last 11 post were directed to me. It looks like she's equally enthralled with my every word. I am truly humbled. You two should consider starting a Hary Potter fan club. Sorry TL, but Rosie would demand being the president, and we both know what that means, don't we?.

Time Lord
Time Lord

Considering that feature of the website only lists the last 10 postings, what does that prove?

I mean other than that you can't count and that you say a lot of things that need correcting.

Hary P
Hary P

That's OK TL, you don't have to make excuses for you and Rosie stalking me. Like I said earlier, I'm flattered at the attention. And BTW, showing more than 10 comments at a time on profiles is not so rare. (that comment should keep Rosie busy counting for a while) lol!

Hary P
Hary P

pastorhayden- Does your vitriolic disgust of evangelicals leave you any room to acknowledge the social good they've.......

Of course there are good Christians and good preachers as well. I just have no use for the phonies and the charlatans like Oral Roberts and Benny Hinn who beg for money and smack people on the head and claim they cured their cancer. As a member of the clergy, I would think you would be equally outraged at the actions of some of your fellow clergy.

Hary P
Hary P

Rosie- You've made your point Hary, both Santorum and myself must be worse than Kermit Gosnell. Why else would you be defending him so hard.

Not defending anyone. I've asked you and TL to show where I have and the best you can come up with is I must be because I haven't joined the chorus. And BTW, I'm not buying that you would force a 12 year old to give birth after being raped. No decent mother would do that, and I have no reason to believe that your not a good mother.

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

Hary,
1. Were William Wilberforce and Martin Luther King Jr. religious hypocrites? Were Deitrich Boenhoffer (who opposed Hitler) or William Carey (who ended the practice of murdering widows in India) or George Muller (who kept and educated over 100,000 British orphans) or Elizabeth Fry (who did as much for prison reform as anyone ever) religious hypocrites? Aren't you painting with a pretty broad brush?
2. Where in my letter did I mention Republicans, Christianity, or Santorum?

Hary P
Hary P

Wow! How many preachers go on line to argue? If you're struggling keeping a flock, I think I know why.

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

I'm not the one who totally hijacked this thread. Read over my comments and then yours objectively and then tell me who is being the troll.
BTW you never answered either of my questions. Does your vitriolic disgust of evangelicals leave you any room to acknowledge the social good they've done (all of the above claimed religion as THE motivating factor.) Are we to believe you must be a secular socialist to not be a hypocritical drain on society? Try something other than a personal attack reply

Hary P
Hary P

pastorhayden- I'm not the one who totally hijacked this thread. Read over my comments and then yours objectively and then tell me who is being the troll.

The difference in you and me is that I am honest about my intentions. I make no bones about my intent to call out the hypocrites on here. Not sure what your intentions are. Like I said, I've never seen a preacher come onto this site and preach. I think you need to find a church to do that. Besides that, we already have jr and Rosie for that.

heavyweight
heavyweight

pastorhayden said: "Try something other than a personal attack reply"

and he wonders why so many posts are directed at him.
we had another troll on this site a while back....humm...what was his name?
wasn't it "brother ben" or something similar?

Hary P
Hary P

Does your vitriolic disgust of evangelicals leave you any room to acknowledge the social good they've done (all of the above claimed religion as THE motivating factor.)

I save that for the ones I see as hypocrites. You know the Benny Hinn's of the world.☺

Hary P
Hary P

heavyweight - and he wonders why so many posts are directed at him.

No, I know exactly why so many comment to me. It's because I like to point out the hypocrisy on here. This is especially true with politics and religion. Sorry, but when I see such absurd things as the earth is only a few thousand years old, I can't let it pass. Same goes for those who blast the president for doing things his predecessors did., you know things like teleprompters and the use of Czars just to name a few.

Rosanna
Rosanna

"The difference in you and me is that I am honest about my intentions. I make no bones about my intent to call out the hypocrites on here."

That has to be one of the funniest postings I've ever seen on this site.

The only intent that you are showing is one of self aggrandizement which you seem to be attempting to achieve by hurling insults at every one and labeling them as racist, homophobic, gun fanatic hypocrites.

Time Lord
Time Lord

"Sorry, but when I see such absurd things as the earth is only a few thousand years old, I can't let it pass."

Who brought up the age of the Earth on this thread? Did I miss something or was that just another desperate attempt to change the subject?

Hary P
Hary P

Rosie- The only intent that you are showing is one of self aggrandizement which you seem to be attempting to achieve by hurling insults at every one and labeling them as racist, homophobic, gun fanatic hypocrites.

Hey, if the shoe fits...

pastorhayden
pastorhayden

Hary, We are in total agreement as to the presence of religious hypocrites. I just don't think the presence of religious hypocrites invalidates everything religious people stand for. I'm sure you don't appreciate it when every socialistic politician is compared to Joseph Stalin.
I'm not preaching on here. I do have a church. You were the one that mentioned Christianity first. I'm trying to have an important civil conversation. Does being a pastor exclude me from that?

Bps
Bps

To all abortion supporters

… go to this link http://www.ct4women.com/pc_development.html

View the photos, videos & ultrasounds of the unborn

Then Google testimony & pictures from murder trial of abortionist Kermit Gosnell (warning- ghastly & horrific)

… showing the discovered horrors of what he & his employees did for over 30 years

Then again tell us they were just blobs of tissue

It's clear why keeping this information hidden by abortionists and enablers is so important ... to them

jtds

Time Lord
Time Lord

"Not defending anyone."

Hary, you have posted more than twice as many time as anyone else on this debate and you have tried to change the subject anyway you could just to give a man cover that has been killing babies that have already been born. If that isn't defending Gosnell and what he was doing, I don't know what is.

Hary P
Hary P

Translation: I made a claim that I couldn't back up, so I put the old Shelby country spin on it. You know the one that says two and two is five if you really believe it. Don't worry, I won't ask you again. It's painful to watch you embarrass yourself.

Time Lord
Time Lord

" You know the one that says two and two is five if you really believe it."

You were the one that claimed that 41% was one third, not her.

Hary P
Hary P

You're logic reminds me of professor McBible's. He says if you don't come on here and talk about your faith, you can't have any. Likewise, using the same type of reasoning you claim that if you don't condemn the doctor you are somehow supporting him. I take it you've never taken a class in logic.

Time Lord
Time Lord

"You're logic reminds me of professor McBible's. He says if you don't come on here and talk about your faith, you can't have any."

So now it is hypocritical to stand up for the things you believe in?

Hary P
Hary P


So now it is hypocritical to stand up for the things you believe in?

When you don't practice what you preach, yes.

Hary P
Hary P

TL- If that isn't defending Gosnell and what he was doing, I don't know what is.

Better check with Rosie if your not sure. I guarantee you she will have an answer for you, even if she has to make something up.

Rosanna
Rosanna

Pastor Hayden, I would like to thank you for writing your letter. Before you wrote it, I had heard of the trial but didn't know any of the details. While your letter may not have had the effect you desired, it has served to show the lengths that some are willing to go in their efforts to silence serious debate of many issues facing our society. If standing up for what I believe means that I will be called a hypocrite, then so be it, Jesus was called one too.

Hary P
Hary P

Not your usual acerbic tone, Rosie. You did fine up until you compared yourself to Jesus. Believe me, you're no Jesus.

Hary P
Hary P

A critically ill young woman in El Salvador may have to decide between jail and a life-saving abortion, according to a new report from Amnesty International.

If some Republicans get their way, this may happen in this country too. Realistically Santorum will never be elected president, but enough of his ilk could get elected to congress and with the right GOP president this could happen here.

Hary P
Hary P


Rosie- The only intent that you are showing is one of self aggrandizement which you seem to be attempting to achieve by hurling insults at every one and labeling them as racist, homophobic, gun fanatic hypocrites.

Everyone? No not everyone, I'm pretty selective and limit my scorn to the hypocrites, racists, homophobes and the like. Oh yeah, and the paranoid gun zealots. I happen to think they deserve scorn, apparently you don't. Hey, it's still a free country....... ☺

Hary P
Hary P

Where were the anti-abortionists during the last administration? Funny that when the Republicans were in charge you did hear much from them. Once the Dems took the White House, they came crawling out of the woodwork like a bunch of starved cockroaches. And no Rosie, this is not defending Dr. Gosnell.

Rosanna
Rosanna

"I always cheer up immensely if an attack is particularly wounding because I think, well, if they attack one personally, it means they have not a single political argument left."
Margaret Thatcher


And yes Hary, I know that I am not a Margaret Thatcher either.

Hary P
Hary P

Rosie- Be careful Vanjon, he isn't house broken and he has been know to make a mess on the carpet.

Comments like this are probably what old Maggs had in mind when she said that.

Hary P
Hary P


Rosie- And yes Hary, I know that I am not a Margaret Thatcher either.

True, but you do share one trait. Old Maggsie thought she had all the answers too.

Hary P
Hary P

heavyweight -pastorhayden said: "Try something other than a personal attack reply"

and he wonders why so many posts are directed at him.

My posts are meant to elicit the kind of responses they get from the posers on here. With that as a guideline, it looks like I'm succeeding. Just like Rosie, you can't help yourself and can't resist responding to my posts. Read about Pavlov's experiments and you might understand your own reactions as well as Rosie's.

heavyweight
heavyweight

"My posts are meant to elicit the kind of responses they get from the posers on here."

that's called "trolling", Hary.
or, "riling up conservative white folks and watching the fun"

"Read about Pavlov's experiments and you might understand...."

i learned about Pavlov & Skinner in jr. high science.
as i've always said...."it's the people who think they're smarter than
they actually are, that will bring down this country."
thanks a lot, Hary & ilk.

Hary P
Hary P

Yep, it's trolling all right. Trolling for fish works every time. I throw a line out, and I never fail to catch on. I have several favorite varieties from the ocean, but locally I prefer suckers.

heavyweight
heavyweight

"I never fail to catch on."

au contraire. you often "fail to catch on".

Hary P
Hary P

heavyweight - "I never fail to catch on."

au contraire. you often "fail to catch on".

Actually, that was a typo. I'm surprised you missed it.

Glad to see you noticed my new Avatar. And did you catch the hilarious cartoon on today's editorial page in the local paper?

heavyweight
heavyweight

"Trolling for fish works every time.
I throw a line out, and I never fail to catch on"

"Actually, that was a typo. I'm surprised you missed it"

yeah... I missed it.
why do you subject yourself to this?
you understand that it's self induced....right?

Hary P
Hary P

heavy- why do you subject yourself to this?
you understand that it's self induced....right?

Why? Watching you crow over your self perceived "victories" make it all worth while. A few others on here are full of themselves too, but no one overestimates them self more than you do. You do make it interesting and are always good for a laugh.

Hary P
Hary P

heavy- i learned about Pavlov & Skinner in jr. high science.

Don't you mean in psychology class in HS? I don't know of any science classes that discuss Pavlov's or Skinner's experiments, and especially not at the jr high level.

Time Lord
Time Lord

"My posts are meant to elicit the kind of responses they get from the posers on here. With that as a guideline, it looks like I'm succeeding."

Translation: If some one wants to debate using facts, I'll throw insults at them until they quit posting.

Hary P
Hary P

Well, you know what Harry Truman said about not being able to take the heat....If you can't take the criticism and want to take your ball and run off, that's up to you.

Hary P
Hary P

So did you just tell us why you and Rosie direct almost all of your comments to me? I must admit that I never thought you two were trying to get me to quit posting. Sorry your plan didn't work. lol!

BTW, did your mower repair business do well enough to require federal income taxes last year? If it did, I can recommend a great accountant.

heavyweight
heavyweight

wow....look at all the red.
Har, you sure comment a lot.

heavyweight
heavyweight

total posts-99
Harbob-50
everyone else combined-49

i guess you have a lot to say.
is this what i get to look forward to in retirement?

Hary P
Hary P

sheepie said-

Harbob-50
everyone else combined-49

Considering how I'm outnumbered on here by the wingnuts, that sounds fair.

I'm sort of like the lib on the Fox show called the Five, you know the one where it takes 5 cons to take on one lib.

BTW, does your boss know you post on company time? Theft of time is still theft.

heavyweight
heavyweight

"does your boss know you post on company time?"

yep, my "boss" knows.
i think i'll write myself up though, and give
myself a day off with pay (on the next beautiful day;)

Hary P
Hary P

So you're now claiming you work for yourself? Just what kind of business do you own? You wouldn't be one of TL's competitors would you?

heavyweight
heavyweight

"You wouldn't be one of TL's competitors would you?"

i don't know what TL does. i'm just a working stiff that shops at Wal-Mart.
you know...one of the little people that doesn't wear Abercrombrie&FiNch. .

Hary P
Hary P

heavyweight - "You wouldn't be one of TL's competitors would you?"

i don't know what TL does. i'm just a working stiff that shops at Wal-Mart.
you know...one of the little people that doesn't wear Abercrombrie&FiNch.

According to Rosie, lawnmower repair. Hey, if not for Google, you wouldn't even know about my typo. And don't feel bad about shopping at Walmart, the Chinese government appreciates all it's supporters.

heavyweight
heavyweight

Harbob- "if not for Google, you wouldn't even know about my typo"

typo? yeah...i can see where you could hit the "N" key. it's next to the "T".

heavyweight
heavyweight

"I'm sort of like the lib on the Fox show called the Five, you know the one where it takes 5 cons to take on one lib."

five cons to take on one lib would make it "The Six".

Welcome to the discussion.

Keep it Clean. Please avoid obscene, vulgar, lewd, racist or sexually-oriented language.
PLEASE TURN OFF YOUR CAPS LOCK.
Don't Threaten. Threats of harming another person will not be tolerated.
Be Truthful. Don't knowingly lie about anyone or anything.
Be Nice. No racism, sexism or any sort of -ism that is degrading to another person.
Be Proactive. Use the 'Report' link on each comment to let us know of abusive posts.
Share with Us. We'd love to hear eyewitness accounts, the history behind an article.